Showing posts with label Event Service. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Event Service. Show all posts

Friday, September 12, 2025

LIRR providing extra service to PGA tournament in Bethpage

The LIRR is actually providing quite a suite of extra trains for the PGA tournament in Bethpage next week. They are providing trains to/from Farmingdale to both Ronkonkoma and New York  before and after the event, and they are also staging a couple unscheduled extras to help bare the rest of the crowds.

The nice thing is with the way the Ronkonkoma Branch runs, they actually currently run a couple of equipment trains in the morning, in both directions, to deadhead equipment out to the yard in Ronkonkoma eastbound and to also deadhead a couple sets west to Hicksville and Westbury to represent local runs on the Main Line. 

The LIRR innovatively converted all of the eastbound equipment runs in the morning into revenue service, providing some very impressive headways into Farmingdale in the morning. The two westbound equipment runs also provide express service from Ronkonkoma (the busiest station on the line by far) to Farmingdale. This is very innovative. And, the best part is, since those two westbound runs originate on the Main Line, they won't affect peak hour passengers as those passengers wont get on until it gets to the Main Line.

Reverse-peak direction

  • Train 1996, a 4:34am departure from Penn Station, stopping at Woodside, Jamaica, Mineola, Hicksville, and Farmingdale, arriving at 5:30am.
  • Train 2006, a 5:13am departure from Grand Central, stopping at Woodside, Jamaica, Mineola, Hicksville, and Farmingdale, arriving at 6:06am.
  • Train 1998, a 5:48am departure from Penn Station, stopping at Woodside, Jamaica, Mineola, Hicksville, and Farmingdale, arriving at 6:46am.
  • Train 2008, a 5:54am deaprture from Grand Central, stopping at Woodside, Jamaica, Mineola, Hicksville, and Farmingdale, arriving at 6:50am
  • Train 4906, a 6:36am departure from Penn Station, stopping at Woodside, Jamaica, Mineola, Hicksville, and Farmingdale, arriving at 7:35am
  • And here's an interesting one, train 2128 (currently a shuttle that deadheads to Farmingdale for whatever reason), a 6:37am departure from Atlantic Terminal stopping at at Nostrand Avenue, East New York, Jamaica, and Farmingdale. 
  • Train 4908, a 7:15am departure from Penn Station, stopping at Wooside, Jamaica, Mineola, Hicksville, and Farmingdale.

Now, see a common theme here? All of these trains are actually scheduled deadhead equipment runs already, so essentially, the LIRR is running these for zero cost. 

Peak direction

During the peak direction, the LIRR doesn't directly add any service, and I don't blame them for this as the line is already pretty much at capacity at that time of the morning, and, by adding more service they'd be screwing the LIRR's most important market, westbound commuters.

  • Train 2501, orginates at Ronkonkoma at 5:40am, runs express to Farmingdale stopping there at 6:09am, then runs to Westbury before resuming it's normal route making all local stops.
  • Train 2103, originates in Ronkonkoma at 6:54am, stopping at Farmingdale at 7:19am (it orginates there), before resuming it's route making all local stops.

In the afternoon, the LIRR doesn't provide close to as a impressive lineup, but, in their defense, they also provide more service during the afternoon reverse-peak, and they do have some unscheduled extras that'll run. 

Reverse-peak direction

  • Train 4955, a 4:57pm departure out of Farmingdale, making Jamaica, and Penn Station.

Peak direction

  • The LIRR will add stops on the express trains, providing a very frequent service to points east on the Main Line. 
Weekend

On the weekend, the LIRR is only providing eastbound service in the morning to the event, (I find it supriisng that they aren't convering the very early westbound equipment moves to service but whatever) but my guess is that they'll run unscheduled extras on those days, too.

  • Train 7934, a 4:15am departure out of Penn Station, stopping at Woodside, Jamaica, Mineola, Hicksville, Bethpage, and Farmingdale, arriving at 5:13am.
  • Train 7936, a 4:39am departure out of Penn Station, stopping at Woodside, Jamaica, Mineola, Hicksville, and Farmingdale, arriving at 5:35am.
  • Train 8008, a 5:30am departure out of Grand Central, stopping at Woodside, Jamaica, Mineola, Hicksville, and Farmingdale, arriving at 6:28am.
  • Train 8012, a 6:33am departure from Grand Central, stopping at Jamaica, Mineola, Hicksville, and Farmingdale, arriving at 7:32am.
  • Train 8014, 8016, 8018, and 8020, 7:31, 8:33, 9:33, and 10:33 departures out of Grand Central, all stopping at Woodside, Jamaica, Mineola, Hicksville, and Farmingdale, arriving at 8:29, 9:30, 10:30, and 11:30am respectively.

Now, we get the bad part, the LIRR strike is happening at what is probably the worst possible time, since, apparently they could go on strike as early as September 18, giving them only 5 days to restore service in time for the Tuesday morning rush hour/PGA tournament. 

In all, I think, for the most part, the LIRR mastered this plan, and as long as the strike doesn't put a giant fork in the plans, then this should work relatively well. I feel like the LIRR converting deadheads to service could be hopeful, since it shows their willing to do that. Possibly in the future they could actually convert these deadhead moves to revenue service, full time, which would be huge to provide even more reverse-peak service opportunities, something that would be a huge step forward.

I look forward to seeing how this service pattern plays out, and it's just great to see the LIRR using their deadhead equipment to their advantage to provide a very robust line of service. This is going to be a huge event, and getting people to and from it as quickly as possible is key, and this should be a huge motivation to not drive. 

If you'd like to view the full timetable including all service to the event, you can do so by visiting MTA.info.

Thursday, August 21, 2025

Metro-North operating extra trains for Yankees-Red Sox games

Metro-North will be providing a couple extra trains for the Red Sox game today, tomorrow, Saturday and Sunday.

Thursday:

  • An extra “Yankee Clipper” train departs New Haven at 4:47pm, making all stops to Westport, South Norwalk, Stamford, Greenwich, Rye, Larchmont, and New Rochelle, before, Yankees E-153 St at 6:45pm.
  • Friday:

  • An extra “Yankee Clipper” train departs New Haven at 4:47pm, making all stops to Westport, South Norwalk, Stamford, Greenwich, Rye, Larchmont, and New Rochelle, before, Yankees E-153 St at 6:45pm.
  • Saturday:

  • An extra “Yankee Clipper” train departs New Haven at 9:23am, making all stops to Westport, South Norwalk, Rowayton, Darien, Noroton Heights, and Stamford, before Yankees E-153 St at 11:23am.
  • In addition, an extra departs Beacon at 9:37am making all stops to Peekskill and Yankees-E 153. Surprised it didn't stop at Croton-Harmon!

  • Sunday:

  • An extra "Yankee Clipper" train departs New Haven at 3:10pm, making all stops to Westport, South Norwalk, Rowayton, Darien, Norton Heights, and Stamford, before Yankees E-153 St at 5:07pm.
  • In addition, an extra departs Beacon at 4:37pm making all stops to Peekskill and Yankees-E 153. Surprised it didn't stop at Croton-Harmon!

  • They are also providing additional shuttle service from Grand Central to Yankees E-153 St on all of the days, as they typically do, to provide supplemental options, esspecially from those travelling where extra service isn't available.

    Note that this in addition to the typical Yankee Clipper runs!

    Tuesday, July 01, 2025

    MTA Fourth of July Service 2025

    Independence Day, also known as Fourth of July falls on a Friday this year, which means that to startoff this post, it's important to note that the LIRR will run on a weekend schedule. 

    Here's some of the service changes that'll occur during the Fourth of July weekend:

    Wednesday, July 2, 2025:

      Long Island Railroad:

      • Normal weekday schedule, regular fares.
      • Train 14, "Mini-Cannonball" as they call it (the 4:07pm from Penn Station to Montauk) will run. 
      Metro-North Railroad:
      • Metro-North will operate on a Thursday schedule.

      Thursday, July 3, 2025:

      Long Island Railroad:

      • Normal weekday schedule, regular fares.
      • Train 14, "Mini-Cannonball" as they call it (the 4:07pm from Penn Station to Montauk) will run. 
      • Train 952 (the 3:58pm out of Ronkonkoma) will be extended to Greenport as 954, and train 953 won't run.
      Metro-North Railroad:
      • Metro-North will operate on Friday schedule, with some early getaway trains and some combined trains later in the rush hour.

      Thursday, July 3, 2025:

      Long Island Railroad:

      • Normal weekday schedule, regular fares.
      • Train 16, "The Cannonball" will run, along with the suit of other Summer Friday Hamptons trains (#10 and #12 to Montauk, along with #66, #89, and #99; SFCC trains #94 and #95 won't run.
      • The LIRR will operate an additional extra train to Montauk, titled #24, departing Jamaica at 7:15pm, running non-stop to Patchogue, Mastic-Shirley, and all stops to Montauk.
      • Train 952 (the 3:58pm out of Ronkonkoma) will be extended to Greenport as 954, and train 953 won't run.
      Metro-North Railroad:
      • Metro-North will operate on Friday schedule, with some early getaway trains and some combined trains later in the rush hour.

          Friday, July 4, 2025:

          Long Island Railroad:

          • Normal Saturday schedule, regular fares.
          • The LIRR will not operate the regular Sunday fleet of additional westbound trains from Montauk, only the Saturday ones.
          Metro-North Railroad:
          • Metro-North will operate on Sunday schedule, with some early getaway trains and some combined trains later in the rush hour.
          • Metro-North will operate two additional trains targeted towards people coming from the Rye Playland and Macy's Firework Shows. The first extra, #3569, is a 10:54pm local out of Rye, making all stops to Grand Central, with the second extra, #3572, departing Grand Central at 11:13pm, making Harlem-125 St, then running nonstop to Westport, Fairfield, and all local stops to New Haven.

              Saturday, July 5, 2025:

              Long Island Railroad:

              • Normal Saturday schedule, regular off-peak fares.
              • The LIRR will not operate the regular Sunday fleet of additional westbound trains from Montauk, only the Saturday ones.
              Metro-North Railroad:
              • Normal Saturday schedule, regular off-peak fares.

              Sunday, July 6, 2025:

              Long Island Railroad:

              • Normal Sunday schedule, with regular off-peak fares.
              • The regular Sunday fleet of additional westbound trains from Montauk will operate.
              • The LIRR will operate an additional extra train from Montauk to Jamaica, titled #6021, departing Montauk at 8:45pm, making all stops to Westhampton before then running nonstop to Jamaica.
              Metro-North Railroad:
              • Normal Saturday schedule, regular off-peak fares.
              Also, on the subway, the MTA will run increased service on the A, C, F, N, 2, and 4 lines to accommodate for increased travel to the Macy's Fourth of July Fireworks show from the afternoon thru the late evening. 

              The thing is, they really need to increase service on the 7 as things can get pretty bad for people watching from near Vernon Blvd-Jackson Avenue. Last year, the 7 got jammed as they didn't run enough trains and this lead to out of control crowding, thus spilling onto the other lines, specifically the G, E, and the N, yet this year they're continuing the same problem by not providing more service on the line that's specifically supposed to target these travelers. 

              The (7) is CBTC, so due to the planned work, they could easily store a couple of trains on the express tracks, then deadhead them over to Hudson Yards and mix them with the locals. If I were the you, I'd avoid the 7 at all costs on Fourth of July night since things we'll probably get pretty ugly following the show.

              Anyways, I wish everyone a happy Fourth of July weekend!

              Thursday, April 03, 2025

              How to get to Citi Field from….

              Okay, now that tomorrow is the first day of the Mets Home Opener, let’s celebrate by taking a look at “How to get to Citi Field from _______” different places via the train.

              There’s two Mets-Willets Point stations, my personal favorite, the subway station, and there’s a railroad station on the Port Washington Branch.

              from Penn Station…

              Board a Port Washington Branch train (it’s colored red on the destination sign) going to Great Neck or Port Washington. If it’s during rush hours, make sure to check the TrainTime app or timetable to guarantee your train stops there. Mets is the second stop.

              from Port Washington Branch stations…

              Board a westbound Port Washington branch train (they typically run every 30-60 minutes). If it’s during rush hours, make sure to consult to the TrainTime app or timetable to guarantee the train stops there.

              from Jamaica 

              Board a westbound train stopping at Woodside (they typically depart from tracks 1,2, and 3, and check the destination signs to make sure your train is stopping there, many trains don’t stop there. At Woodside, wait on the middle platform for an eastbound train to either Great Neck or Port Washington. During weekday evening games, check the schedule to guarantee your train is stopping there.

              from all other stations EAST of Jamaica…

              Board a train at your home station and take it to Jamaica, may require a transfer at somewhere else (take Babylon for example) if you live in diesel territory. If your train happens to stop at Woodside, you can stay not, otherwise, transfer at Jamaica to a train stopping there. Once you reach Woodside, wait on the middle platform an eastbound train to Great Neck or Port Washington. During weekday evening games, check the schedule to guarantee your train is stopping there.

              from Kew Gardens or Forest Hills…

              Board any westbound train to Penn Station  (unless your traveling there at 3:42am or 8:40am, in which you can get off at Woodside and skip to step 2), and ride it all the way to Penn Station, then, at Penn Station, board a Port Washington Branch train (it’s colored red on the destination sign) going to Great Neck or Port Washington.

              from Hunterspoint Avenue to Long Island City…

              Board any eastbound train, once you reach Jamaica, use the overpass to crossover to tracks 1, 2, 3, where you should board a westbound train stopping at Woodside, check the destination signs to make sure your train is stopping there, many trains don’t stop there. Once you reach Woodside, wait on the middle platform an eastbound train to Great Neck or Port Washington. During weekday evening games, check the schedule to guarantee your train is stopping there. However, if your traveling from either station, I’d highly recommend just taking the no.7 train, which stops in both neighborhoods and is a much easier and cheaper alternative. 

              from Atlantic Terminal, Nostrand Avenue, or East New York…

              Board any eastbound train that stops at Jamaica (not that any don’t!), then, at Jamaica, use the overpasses to crossover to tracks 1, 2, or 3, where you should board a westbound train stopping at Woodside, check the destination signs to make sure your train is stopping there, many trains don’t stop there. Once you reach Woodside, wait on the middle platform an eastbound train to Great Neck or Port Washington. During weekday evening games, check the schedule to guarantee your train is stopping there.

              Thursday, December 19, 2024

              LIRR & MNR Holiday Service 2024

              We are now officially less then a week from Christmas Day! However, with Christmas comes the craziness, and it’s difficult to keep track of everything the LIRR & MNR will do for the Holidays, especially with the long break we’re afforded this year!

              Friday, December 20, 2024:

              Long Island Railroad:
              • On Thanksgiving Eve, the LIRR will operate on a normal WEEKDAY schedule. Train #14, the winter version of "The Cannonball" will run. However, no additional extra trains will be provided.
              Metro-North Railroad:
              • A handful of AM/PM peak trains will be combined (i.e the 7:08 am from Tarrytown and the 7:09 from Croton-Harmon will be combined into a new train departing Croton-Harmon at 6:56am) or annulled (i.e the 7:03am super-express from Poughkeepsie).
              Saturday & Sunday, December 21 & 22, 2024:

              Long Island Railroad:
              • Normal weekend service, possibly expect tad bit of crowding for people travelling.
              Metro-North Railroad:
              • Normal weekend service, extra shopper’s specials will operate.
              Monday, December 23, 2024:

              Long Island Railroad:
              • Normal weekday service, with normal fares in affect, possibly expect tad a bit of crowding for people travelling.
              Metro-North Railroad:
              • Normal weekday service, with same changes as on Friday, 12/20.
              Christmas Eve - Tuesday, December 24, 2024:
              • Normal weekday service, with same changes as on Friday, 12/20.
              Christmas Day - Wednesday, December 25, 2024:

              Long Island Railroad:
              • Holiday schedule, off-peak fares in affect all day.
              Metro-North Railroad:
              Thursday & Friday, December 26-27, 2024:
              • Normal weekday service, normal fares apply.
              Saturday & Sunday, December 28-29, 2024:
              • Normal weekend service, normal fares apply.
              Monday, December 30, 2024:

              Long Island Railroad:
              • Normal weekday service, normal fares apply.
              Metro-North Railroad:
              • Normal weekday service, same changes as Friday, 12/20.
              New Year’s Eve - Tuesday, December 31, 2024:

              Long Island Railroad:
              • Normal weekday service, normal fares apply.
              The LIRR has made timetables outlining the additional service that can be found here.
              13 additional westbound extras have been added to the schedule on New Year’s Eve. On the Port Washington Branch, a new train #441, will depart Port Wash at 7:08pm, make all stops to Great Neck, Bayside, Woodside, and Grand Central at 7:49pm. The other extra Port Washington train, #343, will depart Port Washington at 8:40pm make all stops to Bayside, before Woodside and Penn Station at 9:25pm.

              On the Babylon Branch, the LIRR has interestingly added an additional westbound train, #151, which will depart Babylon at 5:16 pm and will run just a measly 3 minutes before the westbound #263 to Grand Central, which makes all stops along the branch and Lynbrook before Jamaica and Penn Station, with this one making all those stops but Lynbrook. The second additional westbound, #199, departs Babylon at 6:29pm, makes all stops to Rockville Centre, Jamaica, and Penn Station at 7:38pm.

              On the Montauk Branch, the LIRR has added an westbound, titled #51, which departs Speonk at 6:47pm, makes all stops to Babylon, before Jamaica, and Penn Station at 8:53pm.

              On the Port Jefferson Branch, heading westbound, the LIRR has added a relatively impressive 4 additional westbound runs with the first one titled #1597 departing Huntington at 6:00pm and making all stops through New Hyde Park, Elmont-UBS Arena, Jamaica, and Penn Station at 7:01. The second additional westbound, #1697, which will depart at 7:18pm, and will make all those same stops, however will run to Grand Central and arrive there at 8:33. The third additional extra is much more interesting, as #663, will depart Port Jefferson at 8:01pm make all stops to Hicksville, Mineola, Elmont-UBS Arena (most likely for the concert), Jamaica, and Penn Station arriving there at 9:58pm. The final westbound extra will depart Huntington at 8:54pm, make all stops to New Hyde Park, Elmont-UBS Arena, Jamaica, and Penn Station at 10:01pm.

              Finally, on the Ronkonkoma Branch, the first westbound extra, #1995, will depart Ronkonkoma at 5:15pm, make all stops to Hicksville except Pinelawn, Mineola, Jamaica, and Penn Station at 6:36pm. The second extra, #1997, will depart Ronkonkoma just 3 minutes after #2065 to Grand Central does, crazy! This train will make all stops to Hicksville, followed by Mineola, Elmont-UBS Arena, Jamaica, and Penn Station at 8:24pm. The third extra, #2095, will depart Ronkonkoma at 7:41pm, make all stops to Hicksville, Mineola, Elmont-UBS Arena, Jamaica, and Grand Central at 9:09pm.

              Metro-North Railroad:
              New Year’s Day - Wednesday, January 1, 2025:

              Long Island Railroad:

              5 additional eastbound trains have been added to the schedule early New Year’s Day. On the Port Washington Branch, the first new extra, #6432, will depart Grand Central Terminal at 12:39am, and make all stops to Port Washington getting there at 1:26am. The second extra, #6334, will depart Penn Station at 2:19am, and again, make all local stops to Port Washington getting there at 3:05am.
              On the Babylon Branch, the first eastbound extra, #6232, will depart Grand Central at 12:46am, then it’ll make Jamaica, Rockville Centre, and all stops getting to Babylon at 2:00am. The second eastbound extra, #6136, will depart Penn Station at 1:19am, make Jamaica, Rockville, and all stops to Babylon arriving there at 2:35am.
               
              On the Montauk Branch, the eastbound extra, #6030, will depart Penn Station at 1:42am, make Jamaica, Rockville Centre, and all stops to Speonk, getting there at 3:54am.
               
              On the Port Jefferson Branch, first of all, #6602 (the 1:10am from Jamaica to Port Jeff) will get an added stop in Elmont-UBS Arena at 1:22. The first fully-additional eastbound extra, #7632, is scheduled to depart Grand Central at 12:59am, make Jamaica, Elmont-UBS Arena, New Hyde Park, and all stops to Huntington. The second fully-additional extra, #7502, will depart Penn Station at 1:34am, make Forest Hills, Kew Gardens, Jamaica, Elmont-UBS Arena, New Hyde Park, and all stops to Huntington, arriving there at 2:27pm. The fourth fully-additional extra, #7534, will depart Penn Station at 2:04am, make Jamaica, Elmont-UBS Arena, New Hyde Park and all stops to Huntington, getting there at 3:12am. The fifth and final extra, #6692, will depart Penn Station at 2:29am, make Jamaica, New Hyde Park, and all stops to Port Jefferson, getting there at 4:29am.
               
              And finally, on the Ronkonkoma Branch, the first extra, #7936, will depart Penn Station at 12:31am, make Jamaica, Mineola, Hicksville, and all eastbound stops to Ronkonkoma besides Pinelawn. The second eastbound, #8090, will depart Grand Central Terminal at 12:33am, make Jamaica, Elmont, Mineola, Hicksville, and all stops to Ronkonkoma besides Pinelawn. The third, fourth, and fifth eastbound extras, #7938, #7902, and #7940 all depart Penn Station, make Jamaica, Elmont, Mineola, Hicksville, and all stops to Ronkonkoma besides Pinelawn at 12:55am, 1:09am, and 2:00am.

              Metro-North Railroad:
              Thursday & Friday, January 2-3, 2025:
              • Normal weekday service, normal fares apply.
              Saturday & Sunday, January 4-5, 2025:

              Normal weekend service, normal fares apply.The timetables can easily get very confusing this time of year, with remarks all over the place and so many holidays to choose from, however, I attempted to summarise it as accurately and efficiently as possible. However, I strongly urge you to check the real schedules as well, because I could’ve made some mistakes!

              Friday, December 20th and Monday, December 23rd could be a bit hairy loading-wise in the early afternoon as many people will choose to go home early, however, especially for the latter, I don’t expect loads to be too bad.Luckily, Christmas is on a Wednesday this year, which brakes things up a bit. Some people will call it quits early Friday afternoon, however others, might leave early and go in for a while on Monday, some more on Tuesday, others might work later on Friday in hopes of getting out earlier on Monday, et cetera, so there will be some heavier loads earlier in the day, however, I expect not too many people will even go in on Friday because people work from home so much these days.

              There is a chance of snow this Friday, which me personally I’d love to leave school for the long break with snow falling, that would be a great start to my week off.

              It’s not uncommon, especially this time of year, to see some extra trains hitting the rails and picking up the people that cannot squish into the normal trains.

              On New Years Eve, the LIRR will normally put up a show of extras, same for Metro-North. The LIRR will normally operate a hodgepodge of extra trains, including dual-modes from Speonk and Port Jefferson for those folks willing to freeze their rear-ends off in Times Square to watch the ball drop, or to go to other concerts that night. Last year, the WB run from Port Jefferson actually made an added stop at Elmont-UBS Arena, the first ever time for a diesel train to stop there! These extras will almost all hang out in West Side Yard during the festivities, before turning around and heading back out to Long Island. Of these trains, train #6092 is easily the most notable of these, this train, departs Penn Station, then stops at Jamaica, Rockville Centre, then makes all local stops to Speonk. That’s 23 stops! The most any LIRR train makes any year and most likely it’ll run again this year however it’s too soon to tell. I feel bad for the crew of that train as they must have absolute fatigue by the time they get to Speonk, and they don’t fiddle with the running times between the closely-packed Babylon-branch stations so the slowly-accelerating DMs have a tough-time and oftenly have been reported to run late. Now, I haven’t been up at 1am, so, I can’t speak for it, but I’ve heard that the loads on this train isn’t too bad, unlike you’d think, as people will hop on earlier trains.

              I will be flying out on December 23rd to go to Michigan to visit family, and I’m hoping to work on a huge upcoming project i’ve been working on for many months now while I’m travelling. However, because of this, I won’t be looking at holiday loads as much until I return home.

              In conclusion, while I think the LIRR is going a little bit crazy on New Year’s Eve, as I’ve noticed that not as many people go into the city on New Years as previous years, I definitely think that this is more like how all of their holidays should look like. In the meantime, I have quite a few amazing posts coming up in the next following days, and I also hope to get a lot of stuff typed up during my vacation.

              May the rest of your year be merry, warm, and safe, no matter where you stay. All the best from Tri-State Rail NOW.

              Wednesday, November 27, 2024

              The Great Holiday Rush Period!

              It’s that time of year again… the holiday season! During the holiday season, trains in and around New York City are known to be packed due to all the big events happening from the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day parade to the events in Times Square on New Years; there's always something to see during the holidays. For many, the Holidays are a break for people, not only for work and schools, but also for the typical ridership patterns on mass transit. As many normal daily commuters cease from their daily routines, more occasional (or frequent) riders who are sitting around at home with nothing to do decide to head into New York to catch some of the Holiday atmosphere, and many of those decide to skip the hassle of driving in during the holidays.

              The last month or two of the year show very different ridership patterns than during previous months, and for many, ridership patterns look nothing like their previous counterparts during this busy time of year. I mean come on, there's no way this photo was taken during the rush hour at 5:45p on a train to Babylon on December 27!


              I decided to make an article analyzing this period between Thanksgiving Eve and New Year’s Day, showing the importance of this time for the railroad, and what can be done to improve service during this time.




              In order for the LIRR to master this important off-peak period, it all comes down to the proper distribution of resources. First of all, it’s important to note that trains that are overcrowded, no matter the time of day, are very undesirable among passengers (and under the current loading guideline, unacceptable. Yet, trains that are significantly under crowded aren’t great either. It’s important to note that trains are expensive to run, so too many trains when the demands are already extensively needed is wasteful of their limited resources.


              I remember that there were a lot of problems on weekends last year, especially on the mainline with lots of overcrowding.


              Finding a balance


              Finding a balance for service during the holidays presents unique challenges and it’s something that the LIRR struggles with, but it’s something that can be solved. For example, Metro-North 


              Let’s start off with Thanksgiving, and normally, things will start to pick up on Thanksgiving Eve, as some people will leave work early with some taking the extra trains that run in the early afternoon for those going home early. Loads on many trains across the system will increase as people take the trains all over to/from the city to go visit family for Thanksgiving, (e.g go take the LIRR to Jamaica and catch the AirTrain to JFK Airport or catch a train to Bridgehampton to visit family). Thanksgiving Day’s loads will pick up very early in the morning as many people will take trains in the 6, 7, and maybe 8am hours into New York for the famous Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade. If anyone would like more information on service on Thanksgiving for the LIRR & MNR, check out this post!


              Holiday confusion...


              I remember last year while I was railfanning at my home station, Sayville, train #13 was running very late (like 40 minutes) due to equipment trouble, and train 69, which at that point, left Patchogue at like 1:25 pm, very soon after #13, and would run nonstop from Patchogue to Babylon (nowadays it's scheduled to make all the stops) made all the stops of #13 so people wouldn't have to wait in the cold for another 40 minutes, I definitely think this was very nice of the crew, but I remember that some people didn't understand that they could take that train in order to get westbound service, and a few even didn't take the train because they were so confused! I even have a video that I'm going to share as I still just love the ridiculousness of the video




              In some cases, what can happen is the LIRR (or even rarer MNR) will operate "passenger extras" aka "xtras" which usually trail a couple of minutes behind the regularly scheduled train and pick up those unlucky folks that cannot fit into the first one, but this cannot always work depending on the time and location.


              For this year, Friday, December 20 and Monday, December 23 will most likely be a little hairy loading-wise in the early afternoon, as the LIRR & MNR aren’t planning on adding any extra trains, but I don’t assume the loads will be too much of a problem as many people will just work from home both days. Some people will end work for the year on Friday, possibly even work late on Friday in hopes of getting out earlier on Monday, while others might take an earlier train in on Monday or possibly even Tuesday, so there might be some slightly heavier loads throughout the morning and afternoon on Friday and Monday, but I think the loads will be consistently spread out throughout these couple of days, so, there shouldn’t be too much of a problem.


              Normally, the week following up to Christmas is a rather chaotic one for the LIRR & MNR, as many people will travel on various trains into and out of the city for events like the famous Radio City Rockette Christmas Show, a favorite of mine, for example. It’s also not uncommon for a massive blizzard, but these days that’s getting rarer and rarer unfortunately.


              On New Year's Eve, the LIRR normally puts up a show of extras, same for Metro-North. The LIRR will normally operate a hodgepodge of extra trains, including dual-modes from Speonk and Port Jefferson for those folks willing to freeze their rear-ends off in Times Square to watch the ball drop, or to go to other concerts that night. Last year, the westbound run from Port Jefferson actually made an added stop at Elmont-UBS Arena, the first ever time for a diesel train to stop there! These extras will almost all hang out in West Side Yard during the festivities, before turning around and heading back out to Long Island. Of these trains, train #6092 is easily the most notable of these, this train departs Penn Station, then stops at Jamaica, Rockville Centre, then makes all local stops to Speonk. That’s 23 stops! The most any LIRR train makes any year and most likely it’ll run again this year however it’s too soon to tell. I feel bad for the crew of that train as they must have absolute fatigue by the time they get to Speonk, and they don’t fiddle with the running times between the closely-packed Babylon-branch stations so the slowly-accelerating DMs have a tough-time and oftenly have been reported to run late. Now, I haven’t been up since 1am, so I can’t speak for it, but I’ve heard that the loads on this train aren't too bad, unlike you’d think, as people will hop on earlier trains. 


              I don’t remember the loads being too busy last year for New Years, but I do remember them being an issue during a lot of the weekends in December and I remember going into the city once or twice of those weekends and it was pretty crowded. If you live on a branch with high ridership but insufficient off-peak service levels (i.e west of Huntington or west of Ronkonkoma), those 8, 10, 12 car sets can fill up very quickly. I’m also not gonna elaborate much on New Jersey Transit, as I’m not as familiar nor follow it as much.


              The LIRR & MNR’s December holiday service is all over the place, and it can be very confusing sometimes to understand, however, I have multiple upcoming posts (well in time for the holiday season) outlining the holiday service in the least confusing way.   


              I'm really hoping things will go better this year; as this was a huge problem last year and there were many complaints, but if the LIRR would like to do better, they will need to put in some more effort, especially on those sticky 4 weekends from Thanksgiving to New Years!


              I really hope you enjoyed this post, I've been looking forward to writing it for a while now, and I tried my best to make it as entertaining as possible, and also, everybody, have a happy Thanksgiving!

              Tuesday, November 26, 2024

              LIRR & MNR Thanksgiving Service 2024

              Unlike many prior years, the LIRR will not be providing any extra trains this Thanksgiving, however, Metro-North will be putting up a show of extra trains on all of it's lines. 

              I will be breaking up each of the lines into sections and pointing out any changes, and service-patterns for this season. I apologize in advance for any mistakes or for any confusion, I've tried to make this as straightforward as possible but it can get very hectic especially on Metro North.

              Thanksgiving Eve - Wednesday, Nov. 27


              Long Island Railroad:


              • On Thanksgiving Eve, the LIRR will operate on a normal WEEKDAY schedule. 

              • Train #14, the winter version of The Cannonball will run.


              The Hudson Line:


              • Metro-North is much more interesting, starting off in the AM rush hour when trains #718 (the 7:08 from Tarrytown) and #720 (the 7:09 from Croton-Harmon) will be combined to form #4720 which will make the combined stops of both trains.

              • Train 836, the 7:03am super-express from Poughkeepsie will be annulled.

              • A new train will depart Poughkeepsie at 8:50am, making New Hamburg & Beacon, followed by Peekskill, Croton-Harmon, Harlem-125th St, and Grand Central Terminal.

              • To roundoff The Hudson Line on Thanksgiving Eve, Metro-North will operate 3 holiday-eve trains for people looking to get out of work early. 2 of these are 1:18 and 2:18pm super-expresses to Poughkeepsie, along with a 1:51p local to Croton-Harmon. In addition, train #736 (the 5:36pm from Grand Central making Tarrytown and all stops to Croton-Harmon) and train #761 (the 5:39 from Grand Central making Greystone, and all stops to Tarrytown


              The Harlem Line:


              • On The Harlem Line, train #520 (the 7:57a from Crestwood) and train #522 (the 7:53a from North White Plains) will combine into a new train titled #4522 which will depart North White Plains at 7:44 AM. 

              • Train #729, which makes all stops from Southeast to Goldens Bridge, then North White Plains - Scarsdale, and Grand Central Terminal will be annulled outright.

              • Interestingly, train 509, which conveniently departs Grand Central at 7:44am and makes White Plains and North White Plains only will be annulled outright.

              • Trains #551 (the 4:45 pm making Harlem-125th St followed by Crestwood and all stops to NWP) and #351 (the 4:48 pm making Harlem-125th St followed by Mount Vernon West and then all stops to Crestwood) will be combined into #4551 which will depart at 4:45 and make the combined stops of both trains. I’d also like to point out that #573, the 7:08 pm express train that makes Hartsdale and all stops to North White Plains will also be removed from the schedule.


              The New Haven Line:


              • The New Haven Line is much bigger and more complex, but I'll try my best to explain today's changes as best as possible. Train #1417 (the 6:48a from South Norwalk) will not run, and neither will Train #1419 (the 6:30 from Bridgeport). They will both be combined into a new train #3419 which will make the combined stops. In addition, train #1427 (the 6:59am from Bridgeport) and Train #1437 (the 8:28am from South Norwalk) will both be annulled outright.

              • Two holiday eve extra trains, one titled #3541 which leaves New Haven @8:24am and makes Bridgeport, Stamford, & Grand Central only, and the other one which departs New Haven at 5:14pm and also makes the same stops with Harlem-125 added will run.

              • On the outbound side, the morning is the same but like usual, a couple of early afternoon holiday-eve trains will run. The first one #3536, will depart Grand Central Terminal at 2:28pm promptly, making Harlem-125, then running nonstop to Westport, and then make Fairfield and all stops to New Haven. The second train departs GCT at 2:56 pm and then makes Harlem, Larchmont, and all stops to Stamford. 

              • In addition, #3538 & #3540 (the 3:03 & 3:27 holiday-eve trains from Grand Central) will also run and both make the same stops as #3536. 

              • Shore Line East's through train from Stamford to New London will not run.

              • Trains #1254 (the 5:18 pm from Grand Central making Harlem-125th St, New Rochelle - Harrison getting there at 6:00pm) and #1256 (the 5:21pm local from Grand Central to New Rochelle) will be combined into #3254 which will make the combined stops, but will only run on 11/27's holiday eve, and I think this combination is a very smart move on the MTA's part.

              • Trains #1560, #1568 to New Haven, & #1470 to Bridgeport will be combined into a 5:21 pm making all combined stops. And finally, train #1572 (the 6:44p to New Haven) will not run.


              Thanksgiving Day - Thursday, Nov. 28


              Long Island Railroad-


              • When I originally wrote this, they hadn’t posted the information, but to my pleasant surprise they posted the schedules yesterday.

              • The LIRR will operate on a HOLIDAY schedule.

              • The LIRR will operate a total of six additional westbound trains early Thursday morning for those going to see the famous Macy’s Thanksgiving Day parade. 

              • On the Babylon Branch heading WB, the first extra is #6143 which will operate just 5 minutes behind #6207 and will depart Babylon at 6:24 AM, make Lindenhurst at 6:29am, and make all stops to Rockville Centre, and Penn Station at 7:34. The second extra, #6243, will depart Babylon at 7:02am, make all stops to Rockville Centre, Jamaica, and Grand Central Terminal at 8:14am. The third and final extra, #6145, will depart Babylon at 7:27, make all stops thru Rockville Centre, Jamaica, and Penn at 8:41. I think these extras are timed perfectly for the parade! I even think the first one should be a regular train and replace #6207. 

              • On the Ronkonkoma Branch, heading WB, the first extra, #7941, will depart Ronkonkoma at 6:15am, make all stops thru Hicksville, Mineola, Jamaica, and Penn Station at 7:37am. The second extra, #8141, will depart Farmingdale! @7:01am, make all stops to Jamaica, and Penn Station at 8:02am. The third extra, #8041, will depart Ronkonkoma at 6:48am and make all stops to Hicksville, Mineola, Jamaica, and Grand Central at 8:11. 

              • Their will be eight additional extra eastbound trains for those coming home from the parade in the early afternoon.

              • On the Babylon Branch heading EB, the first extra, #6140, will depart Pennsylavania Station at 11:32am, and stop at Jamaica, before making Lynbrook and every single stop to Babylon. The second extra, #6142, will depart Penn Station at 12:08pm and make Jamaica, Rockville Centre, and all stops. The third extra, #6240, will depart Grand Central at 12:28pm, make Jamaica, Lynbrook, and all stops to Babylon. The fourth and final extra, #6242, will depart Grand Central at 12:48pm and make Jamaica, Rockville Centre, and all stops.

              • On the way home on Ronkonkoma, the first extra, #7940, departs Penn Station at 11:20, Jamaica, New Hyde Park, and all stops to Farmingdale arriving there at 12:22pm. The second extra departs Grand Central Terminal at 12:13pm, makes Jamaica, Mineola, Hicksville, and all stops to Ronkonkoma besides Pinelawn. The third extra, #7942, departs Penn Station at 12:34pm, makes Jamaica, Mineola, Hicksville, Bethpage, Farmingdale, and all stops to Ronkonkoma. The fourth and final extra, #8042, departs Grand Central at 12:51pm, makes Jamaica, Mineola, Hicksville, Bethpage, Farmingdale, and all stops to Ronkonkoma, arriving there at 2:10pm. There’s also one extra train that departs Grand Central at 12:42pm, and makes Jamaica, New Hyde Park, and all stops to Huntington, but there’s no WB equivalent. 


              The Hudson Line-


              • There will be 3 additional trains out of Poughkeepsie early for the parade. There will also be one additional inbound train out of Poughkeepsie at 7:38pm making New Hamburg, Beacon, Peekskill, Croton-Harmon, Harlem-125, and GCT.


              • A Thanksgiving-only train, #4817, will depart Grand Central Terminal at 10:48am and then stop at Harlem-125th St, Croton-Harmon, and all stops to Poughkeepsie. They will also operate an additional train departing GCT at 10:52 and it will make Harlem-125, then run express to Marble Hill before making every stop to Croton-Harmon.


              • 2 trains to Poughkeepsie, #4119 & #4821 will depart Grand Central 20 minutes apart (11:28 & 11:48) and then will make Harlem-125, and all the regular stops to Poughkeepsie. They will then operate an extra train, train #4725, departing the crowded train shed at 11:52 and then making Harlem, Marble Hill, and all stops to Croton-Harmon.


              • A Thanksgiving-only train, #4823, will depart Grand Central Terminal at 12:08pm and make Harlem-125, Croton-Harmon, and all regular stops to Poughkeepsie, followed by #4825 making the same stops exactly 20 mins later, and #4127 also 20 minutes later. Then there’s #4729, which makes Harlem-125, Yankees E 153rd St, Marble Hill, and all stops to Croton-Harmon. I’ve decided not to continue after this as it’s just so difficult to cover all these extras


              The Harlem Line-


              • On The Harlem Line, MN is assigning three extra trains into Grand Central. These trains will depart Southeast at 5:29, 6:29, and 7:29, and the first one will make all stops to White Plains before Harlem-125 & New York. The other two will make all stops to Crestwood, and then fly into Harlem. These trains will arrive GCT at 7:10, 8:10, 9:10am. 


              • Heading back from Grand Central, a new train, #4219, will depart Grand Central at 9:40, make Harlem-125, White Plains and all stops to Southeast besides Mount Pleasant. 


              • The 10:12am trip from Grand Central to Crestwood will be annulled for an unknown reason. And, a new extra, #4221, will depart Grand Central at 10:40, make Harlem, White Plains, and all stops. The next extra train, #4223, will depart Grand Central at 11:00am, make Harlem-125th St, White Plains, Chappaqua, Mount Kisco, Katonah, Crotonfalls, Brewster, Southeast. 

              • A new extra train, #4221, will depart Grand Central at 11:40, make Harlem, White Plains, and all stops.

              • Following that, #4227, will depart Grand Central at 12:00pm make Harlem, White Plains, Chappaqua, Mount Kisco, Katonah, Crotonfalls, Brewster, Southeast. 

              • Following that, #4229, will depart Grand Central at 12:31pm make Harlem, White Plains, Chappaqua, Mount Kisco, Katonah, Crotonfalls, Brewster, Southeast. 

              • Following that, #4231, will depart Grand Central at 1:00pm make Harlem, White Plains, Chappaqua, Mount Kisco, Katonah, Crotonfalls, Brewster, Southeast. 


              The Danbury Branch-


              • Metro-North will operate one thru-train each on this special day. The inbound train will depart Danbury Union Station at 6:08am, make all stops to Stamford, then Harlem-125 and NY-Grand Central at 8:17.

              • The outbound train will depart Grand Central at 12:19pm, then make Harlem-125, Stamford, and all stops to Danbury. 


              Black Friday - Friday, Nov 29


              Long Island Railroad-


              • The LIRR will operate on a normal WEEKDAY schedule.

              • Train #2710, the off-season Cannonball will run.

              • Off-peak fares will be in affect all day.


              The Hudson Line:


              • Metro-North is much more interesting, starting off in the AM rush hour when trains #718 (the 7:08 from Tarrytown) and #720 (the 7:09 from Croton-Harmon) will be combined to form #4720 which will make the combined stops of both trains.

              • Train 836, the 7:03am super-express from Poughkeepsie will be annulled.

              • A new train will depart Poughkeepsie at 8:50am, making New Hamburg & Beacon, followed by Peekskill, Croton-Harmon, Harlem-125th St, and Grand Central Terminal.

              • To roundoff The Hudson Line on Thanksgiving Eve, Metro-North will operate 3 holiday-eve trains for people looking to get out of work early. 2 of these are 1:18 and 2:18pm super-expresses to Poughkeepsie, along with a 1:51p local to Croton-Harmon. In addition, train #736 (the 5:36pm from Grand Central making Tarrytown and all stops to Croton-Harmon) and train #761 (the 5:39 from Grand Central making Greystone, and all stops to Tarrytown


              The Harlem Line:


              • On The Harlem Line, train #520 (the 7:57a from Crestwood) and train #522 (the 7:53a from North White Plains) will combine into a new train titled #4522 which will depart North White Plains at 7:44 AM. 

              • Train #729, which makes all stops from Southeast to Goldens Bridge, then North White Plains - Scarsdale, and Grand Central Terminal will be annulled outright.

              • Interestingly, train 509, which conveniently departs Grand Central at 7:44am and makes White Plains and North White Plains only will be annulled outright.

              • Trains #551 (the 4:45 pm making Harlem-125th St followed by Crestwood and all stops to NWP) and #351 (the 4:48 pm making Harlem-125th St followed by Mount Vernon West and then all stops to Crestwood) will be combined into #4551 which will depart at 4:45 and make the combined stops of both trains. I’d also like to point out that #573, the 7:08 pm express train that makes Hartsdale and all stops to North White Plains will also be removed from the schedule.


              The New Haven Line:


              • The New Haven Line is much bigger and more complex, but I'll try my best to explain today's changes as best as possible. Train #1417 (the 6:48a from South Norwalk) will not run, and neither will Train #1419 (the 6:30 from Bridgeport). They will both be combined into a new train #3419 which will make the combined stops. In addition, train #1427 (the 6:59am from Bridgeport) and Train #1437 (the 8:28am from South Norwalk) will both be annulled outright.

              • Two holiday eve extra trains, one titled #3541 which leaves New Haven @8:24am and makes Bridgeport, Stamford, & Grand Central only, and the other one which departs New Haven at 5:14pm and also makes the same stops with Harlem-125 added will run.

              • On the outbound side, the morning is the same but like usual, a couple of early afternoon holiday-eve trains will run. The first one #3536, will depart Grand Central Terminal at 2:28pm promptly, making Harlem-125, then running nonstop to Westport, and then make Fairfield and all stops to New Haven. The second train departs GCT at 2:56 pm and then makes Harlem, Larchmont, and all stops to Stamford. 

              • In addition, #3538 & #3540 (the 3:03 & 3:27 holiday-eve trains from Grand Central) will also run and both make the same stops as #3536. 

              • Shore Line East's through train from Stamford to New London will not run.

              • Trains #1254 (the 5:18 pm from Grand Central making Harlem-125th St, New Rochelle - Harrison getting there at 6:00pm) and #1256 (the 5:21pm local from Grand Central to New Rochelle) will be combined into #3254 which will make the combined stops, but will only run on 11/27's holiday eve, and I think this combination is a very smart move on the MTA's part.

              • Trains #1560, #1568 to New Haven, & #1470 to Bridgeport will be combined into a 5:21 pm making all combined stops. And finally, train #1572 (the 6:44p to New Haven) will not run.


              Saturday & Sunday - Nov 30 & Dec 1


              Long Island Railroad-


              • The LIRR will run on a WEEKEND schedule.


              The Hudson Line-


              • The Hudson Line will run on a WEEKEND schedule, with no changes.


              The Harlem Line-


              • As with the Hudson Line, no changes.


              The New Haven Line- 


              • Unlike her counterparts, The New Haven line will offer a couple of trains today in both directions. These trains are scheduled to run Saturdays only 11/30 through 12/28. The first four trains, #3515, #3517, #3521, & #3523 will depart New Haven at 8:05, 8:29, 9:26, and 9:58am respectively, and the first two will make all stops to Fairfield, then Westport, South Norwalk, Darien, Stamford, Harlem-125, and Grand Central. The latter two will make New Haven, West Haven, Bridgeport, Fairfield-Metro, Fairfield, South Norwalk, Stamford, Harlem-125, and Grand Central. 


              • Heading back to New Haven, the first extra train will depart Grand Central at 4:53, make Harlem-125, then run nonstop to Westport, Fairfield, and all local stops to New Haven (getting there at 6:46pm). The second extra train will depart Grand Central Terminal at 5:59pm, make Harlem-125, then run nonstop to Westport, Fairfield, and all local stops to New Haven (getting there at 7:53pm). The third & fourth extra trains will make the same stops as the previous one, except departing at 6:59pm & 7:59pm and arriving New Haven at 8:53 and 9:53pm.


              The Saturday & Sunday following Thanksgiving are usually known to be the busiest weekend for rail travel in the country. While it may not be as busy as a usual day on commuter railroads such as LIRR, Amtrak, for example, gets floods of reservations for people wanting to go home all over the country. In some cases, there is so much demand that they operate extra trains!


              I apologize for any typos I have made, or if this is confusing, this has been a very rewarding but difficult post to make, so, I urge you to also check the official timetables.


              So if your travelling this Thanksgiving season, whether to see family on 11/27, the famous parade on 11/28, or even to make use of the Black Friday deals on 11/28, try taking the train this holiday season as there's good & reliable service almost everywhere that will be perfectly willing to get you places just as fast, or faster!